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jkreuzig

17 Aug, 2011 10:46 PM

Our installation is a manual only installation, so I'm using the zip file to install. Were there big changes in the directory structure for moving from Tomcat 5 -> 6? There seems to be a few things missing:

1) Missing temp directory - in $tomcat_home, there was originally a temp directory. The server does startup without it, but it does throw a SEVERE error at startup.

2) The Tomcat manager - by default, Tomcat 5 had the Tomcat manager installed at $tomcat_home/server/manager. Having the manager is crucial for our installation, as we have a custom authentication module installed that takes away our ability to login directly. Using the manager, we are able to create a separate login page that allows for local (Cascade Server) authentication. This seems to have been removed. From what I can tell about Tomcat 6, the manager would have been moved under $tomcat_home/webapps/manager. Any chance you can put that back in?

Jim

1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Tim on 18 Aug, 2011 09:03 PM

   

   Hi Jim,

   Please see my comments below:

   1) Missing temp directory - in $tomcat_home, there was originally a temp directory. The server does startup without it, but it does throw a SEVERE error at startup.

   Good call. We'll make sure this gets corrected in one of our next releases. Keep an eye out for the Release Notes to see if this item made it in. In the meantime, you can go ahead and create a 'temp' folder (if you haven't already) and that should do the trick.

   2) The Tomcat manager - by default, Tomcat 5 had the Tomcat manager installed at $tomcat_home/server/manager. Having the manager is crucial for our installation, as we have a custom authentication module installed that takes away our ability to login directly. Using the manager, we are able to create a separate login page that allows for local (Cascade Server) authentication. This seems to have been removed. From what I can tell about Tomcat 6, the manager would have been moved under $tomcat_home/webapps/manager. Any chance you can put that back in?

   Interesting. We were not aware of anyone that was ever using this since, as you mentioned, it was something that came by default with our old Tomcat 5 package. These were indeed removed for our Tomcat 6 installers. As of now, there aren't any plans to add it back. I would recommend grabbing a distribution of Tomcat 6 directly from the site here, then copying the directories you need into your *\tomcat\webapps* folder within the Cascade directory.

   Let me know if this helps!

   Thanks

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2. 2 Posted by jkreuzig on 18 Aug, 2011 09:39 PM

   

   Tim,

   I created the temp folder just to keep from getting the error. Thanks for putting it on track for a future release.

   I had gone ahead and downloaded the tomcat distribution before I wrote the message, so I have it installed and it is working great. I understand why you removed the tomcat manager. My concern was that this was something that came packaged originally with cascade server, and now it's not there. I know I have been approached by a number of folks on how to have both custom and normal authentication, and I have pointed them towards using the manager webapp as the solution. I don't imagine that anybody else is going to ask for that as a solution, but it is something I wanted you to be aware of.

   Thanks!

   Jim

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3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Tim on 18 Aug, 2011 09:52 PM

   

   Jim,

   I definitely appreciate you letting us know. As I mentioned, we were kind of caught off guard when you mentioned you were using the manager app. If we do have more requests (or find that others were relying on it), we'll definitely consider placing them back into the installers somewhere down the road.

   Thanks for the heads up re: the 'temp' folder!

   Have a good one.

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4. Tim closed this discussion on 18 Aug, 2011 09:52 PM.