Question about Relationships in 7.8

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Jason Aller

21 Nov, 2013 06:05 PM

If I have a folder of structured data blocks that is indexed and used by a format on a page outside of that folder what should I see when I go to one of the structured data blocks and select the Relationships tab? Should I be seeing "There are no relationships for this block"?

Similarly if I have a folder of pages that is indexed and a format on a page outside that folder that presents a list of links to those pages what should I see when I go to the Relationships tab of one of the pages? Should I be seeing "There are no relationships for this page"?

  1. 1 Posted by Ryan Griffith on 21 Nov, 2013 06:29 PM

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    Hi Jason,

    Currently, the Relationships tab will not include indirect relationships such as Index Blocks that may index a particular Page or Block.

    This does sound like an interesting concept; however, and I would highly recommend suggesting this on our Idea Exchange for others to vote up and/or comment on.

    Off-hand, there is sort of a workaround with Content Type Index Blocks. You could view the relationships for the Content Type being indexed, which would list all of the Pages using that Content Type.

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Thanks!

  2. 2 Posted by Jason Aller on 21 Nov, 2013 06:33 PM

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    Thanks for that clarification.

    I'm seeing some interesting behavior with Relationships such as a page listing a relationship to its header block but not its footer block. Is there a way to trigger a rebuild of those relationships?

  3. 3 Posted by Jason Aller on 21 Nov, 2013 06:35 PM

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    Even stranger I'm seeing relationships for some pages to blocks on other sites where I'm sure there is no relationship. An instance of this is a page listing relationships to three separate footer blocks, where one of the blocks is correct, but the other two are from separate sites.

  4. 4 Posted by Ryan Griffith on 21 Nov, 2013 06:45 PM

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    Not a problem at all, Jason.

    I'm seeing some interesting behavior with Relationships such as a page listing a relationship to its header block but not its footer block. Is there a way to trigger a rebuild of those relationships?

    To clarify, are both Blocks linking to the Page and only one is listed under the Page's Relationships? Or, are you viewing the Relationships for each Block and only one of them lists the Page?

    Even stranger I'm seeing relationships for some pages to blocks on other sites where I'm sure there is no relationship. An instance of this is a page listing relationships to three separate footer blocks, where one of the blocks is correct, but the other two are from separate sites.

    Let me check into this a bit more. I do have a few questions to see if we can narrow this down a bit:

    • Can you confirm the Block from the other Sites do not link to this Page?
    • Is there a Page within those Sites with the same name?

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Thanks!

  5. 5 Posted by Jason Aller on 21 Nov, 2013 06:49 PM

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    I think what was confusing me is that relationships can be established by having content that links to the page. The page I was looking at only uses one footer, but there are links to it in the footers from the other sites.

    I wonder if it would be useful to indicate the type of relationship in the listing of relationships? "Is mentioned by" which is separate from "is included in" which is separate from "indirect relationship via index block".

  6. 6 Posted by Ryan Griffith on 21 Nov, 2013 07:01 PM

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    Hi Jason,

    Ah, that makes sense then. Thank you for clarifying for me.

    I wonder if it would be useful to indicate the type of relationship in the listing of relationships? "Is mentioned by" which is separate from "is included in" which is separate from "indirect relationship via index block".

    I can see how this may be confusing. If it helps, there is additional information regarding Relationships on our Knowledge base.

    If I recall, we may have discussed this concept internally (ie labeling the relationship type), but I don't see anything listed. Would you be willing to post this as a suggestion on our Idea Exchange for others to vote up and/or comment on?

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

    Thanks!

  7. Ryan Griffith closed this discussion on 02 Dec, 2013 01:50 PM.

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